And I want to talk about them together because I think they’re all related and I think they point to what is going to be a huge and long fight. Yeah, how did this end up here? So this week, we had, I would say, three incidents that I think illustrate what is going on in this war over AI data use. Yeah, I think ChatGPT’s FAQ page just says that the data fell off the back of a truck. And then as they sort of lawyered up and realized that people were going to be mad about this, they have stopped saying nearly as much about how they are actually getting this data. They were proud of how clever they were being, going out and scraping all these websites to get this data to feed into their neural networks. And this is something that in the early days of generative AI, companies would tell you a lot about how they got the data to train their models. And the more that they learn about that, I think the more questions they’re asking. Yeah, people want to have some say in how their data is being used to train this stuff. Which I love, because it is like what I would call the first shreds of this counter movement, which is objecting not just to the existence of generative AI and the use of generative AI in creative industries, but to the actual process by which these models are built and trained. So you suggested calling this segment, Don’t Scrape Me, Bro. Yeah, the backlash is popping up in many different places at once. But I would say this week, we really saw the first traces of an organized counter movement to the use of generative AI in creative industries. And it’s not super.Ĭasey, we have talked on this show about generative AI and how many artists and writers and creative people are starting to get a little freaked out by all of these tools, some of the legal challenges to the companies that are making this stuff. After that, how Reddit crushed its user uprising. Then organizers from the San Francisco activist group Safe Street Rebel stop by to tell us why they’re disrupting autonomous vehicles by putting traffic cones on their hoods. ![]() kevin russoĪnd you’re listening to “Hard Fork.” This week on the show, a growing backlash to AI that has more people saying, don’t scrape me, bro. I’m Kevin Russo, tech columnist at The New York Times. ![]() Do you know how many times people order a double cheeseburger with fries and a Diet Coke? That’s what this is. This is, if I have this thing in a sad cup with a sad spoon, then I’m not fully being bad. ![]() It’s like if you put it in a cone, then it’s a hat on a hat. But if you were to ask me, what is the best way to eat ice cream cone? Obviously, it’s an a cone. Mm, typically, a cup because a cone just feels too indulgent. kevin russoĪre you a cone guy or a cup guy when you get ice cream? casey newton Please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email with any questions. While it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. This transcript was created using speech recognition software. Transcript Don’t Scrape Me, Bro, the Activists Sabotaging Self-Driving Cars and How Reddit Beat a Rebellion Backlash to technology online and on the streets.
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